The journey of Girl and Her Moon with Noush and Jordane Maree

Jordane Maree: Hello beautiful, it is Jordane here and this is episode 17 of Girl and Her Moon, the podcast. I am so grateful to be sharing this conversation with you, but before I do so I wanted to pop in here very quickly to share that our 2023 readings have officially arrived. These have been community favourite readings for the past few years and so I am really excited to get to share them with you.

Next year has some really exciting astrological shifts which we will explore next month on the podcast, but both of our 2023 astrology readings and 2023 tarot readings will dive into your year ahead on a more personal, individual basis and in a really beautiful depth as well. These readings are here for you to enter this beautiful year ahead with trust, with strength, with clarity and with excitement for all that is to come. They are here to remind you of the greater invitations that are etched into your human experience, whether it’s a transit that asks you to step into boldness, a full moon that invites a deep transformation, an experience that comes along inviting softness or forgiveness, or maybe an interaction asking you to activate your voice, our lives are filled with these invitations which are ultimately calling us to become more of who we are. And so in these readings we will bring forth some of these invitations from the unseen into the seen whether it’s through reading the astrology transits or it’s through reading tarot cards. By bringing them to the surface you can begin to consider, begin to interact with, to open to and to step into them in your own divine way. There is also of course space for any questions you might have about your year ahead, maybe if there’s a desire that’s ready to sprout forth, let us support you in this process. We have the magical Dilosh, Kapilani and Zoffia available for 2023 tarot readings and we have the sacred Noush and Issa offering 2023 astrology readings. I will pop the links to both readings in the show notes and leave you with this episode I hope you enjoy.

Noush: And welcome to the Girl and Her Moon podcast. This is Noush and I will be hosting the podcast today as we will be learning about the magic and the person behind Girl and Her Moon. We’re going to be exploring and learning about how it began and where it comes from, where the inspiration comes from, how it continues and also a little bit or a lot hopefully about Jordane the person, the woman, the magic behind everything that you see and everything that you receive and all of the beautiful words and inspiration that we connect with through Girl and Her Moon. So I’m really excited to introduce you to Jordane of Girl and Her Moon. Hi Jordane.

Jordane Maree: Thank you. That was so perfect by the way. I feel like that was so much better than any introduction I’ve done.

Noush: Oh my gosh. I have no idea. Maybe when we hear it back you’ll be like…

Jordane Maree: Did you just black out a little bit and something came out?

Noush: Yes, that’s definitely what happened.

Jordane Maree: It was perfect.

Noush: Thank you. So tell us about how are you? How’s how are you doing? What’s going on? Let’s start easy and work up to the big stuff.

Jordane Maree: So I’m doing good. I was just kind of expressing to you a bit earlier, it’s spring here in Australia and it’s so profound just to see how much the influence of having the sun out and having warmth affects every single particle of your being. It completely shifts the atmosphere, it completely shifts your internal state and I didn’t realize how much I missed the sun throughout winter and I’m just so happy. Everything makes me happy because the sun’s out right now.

Noush: I can definitely relate to that, especially being an Australian living in Canada. I missed the sun for more than half of the year. But it’s such a rejuvenating and refreshing feeling just to be under that warmth and you just feel held in the rays. So speaking of being held in energy, let’s try this transition, shall we? Tell us a little bit about what captivated you and brought you to the work that you do? How do you connect to that energy and how do you connect to that warmth and that kind of universal energy? If we expand that influence of the sun and we kind of take it a little further, how did you find yourself there in that world?

Jordane Maree: I love that. I think Girl and Her Moon has been a really big part of that. I was thinking about this earlier. Girl and Her Moon has kind of been this doorway for me to explore a lot of what being a human means in both a true, deep, grounded, embodied human emotional self and in this divine, expanded, pure light consciousness self, in both ways. It’s been through my journey with Girl and Her Moon that I’ve been able to really explore all these different avenues of what it means to be alive. And so I feel really grateful that. I think we were going to explore together today what is something that kind of keeps you in this world of, I don’t even know how to define it most of the time, but it’s keeps you in the world of presence and divinity and humanness all together. And that is through Girl and Her Moon, that is through this work. So even just coming on here and getting to have these conversations of a more spiritual or universal nature, those are the types of things that really anchor me into this space because it’s these little pockets in time are just available for me to step into and be in that space of divinity. And especially when I’m writing. I don’t even know if I’m answering your question right now, but writing…

Noush: This is great.

Jordane Maree: Writing has always been just the deepest anchor in life for me. It’s always been the most healing experience for me. And it’s also been the way that I connect with what you would call a divine or the universe or energy, the unseen realms. It pours itself through my writing. And I feel very lucky for that. I don’t know. No, you go.

Noush: So just taking it back a little bit then. So was there a catalyst moment or a point that you reached in your life or something that occurred for you that opened this gateway up? Was there a moment or an experience or something that happened which really just catapulted you into the world of Girl and Her Moon? How did that come to be born?

Jordane Maree: I don’t know if it was a specific moment, but I can pinpoint where I was on the timeline. So it was 2018 and I actually mentioned this a little bit in the last podcast episode. Girl and Her Moon is not my first business. I don’t know if I’ve ever told you that before. It’s my first what you could label as successful business because my last attempt in all outer check boxes of what it means to be successful, it totally failed. But it was perfect at the same time. So when was this? This was 2018. And I had just finished university and my excuse for being at a job that I really disliked was the fact that I’m at uni, I’m still studying and I’m still figuring it out. This is just a way for me to make money. And so when that excuse kind of its expiration date came to fruition and I couldn’t blame anything on the fact that I was at a job that I really, really disliked, I felt really lost and confused. And especially when I came to the end of four years of studying, realizing that I didn’t want to do anything further with it.

So I started a business and it was selling or reselling home decor. So cushions and throws and vases and candles and all of those types of things because I just adore that world. And like I said, it was in every outer marker of success of a business, it was a total failure. It didn’t make any money. In fact, it lost money. It cost a lot more than it made. And it was within a lot of that struggle and a lot of that discomfort of really wanting to make something work, but kind of meeting the edges of myself throughout each point as in how do I explain it? When you really want something. But there’s so much within you that is in resistance to that thing. It’s impossible not to meet all of those aspects of yourself that you could have just been totally hidden away from previously. You didn’t need to meet your edges before when you’re not in that space of discomfort. And it was through that business being a total “failure” that I was really uncomfortably meeting a lot of myself and meeting a lot of the parts of me that I didn’t need to face before.

I could kind of just keep swept under the rug in the shadows. And it was through that kind of unbecoming, that breaking open that I really, I never know how to explain this and you could use the term awakening, but I feel like that word is, it’s been used in so many different ways that it’s a bit funny now, but that’s when things really cracked open for me. And that’s when I really discovered this connection to something greater within and around me. And that’s when it all started. And that’s when I was guided through a lot of that confusion and discomfort and at the same time, true magic and beauty, all of that kind of mixed into this big melting pot of something. That was when I was like I’m going to start an Instagram page. And just for the fun of it, just to explore with words, as that’s always been my greatest avenue to kind of make sense of things, to explore with words, to share things, to connect with people that I didn’t feel I was in absolute resonance with in my physical world around me, I was searching for that online. And that’s when Girl and Her Moon was born.

Noush: That’s such an interesting story because besides that feeling that I feel I believe that many people can connect with where you work so hard towards a degree, you get a job and then you’re just kind of lost in it. And then maybe you attempt to start a business. it just feels like such a path that so many people might take to find some semblance of fulfillment or meaning or purpose. But it’s amazing that through that process, you broke into something completely different and your “failure” which I don’t know, that’s really, it depends on what you think of as a failure because there’s so many ways that we can even dissect that. But it’s amazing that through that process, I’m assuming it was some kind of guiding energy or intuition that you followed to get you to that point of beginning your Instagram page and writing and writing out maybe that connection that you felt. ‘

Jordane Maree: I don’t even know if I had the capacity to see or to realize, this is my intuitive guidance taking me towards this direction. At that point, it was just like I’m going to create a page. And I also I absolutely agree with what you were saying about failure because I believe that, that business, excuse me, did exactly what it was supposed to. And it was an absolute success in that way.

Noush: It almost paved the way towards what you’re doing now. It probably also helped you to understand how to build the framework for what Girl and Her Moon eventually has become, which is an incredible platform and also a business in a way. The other thing, this is just a side note. It’s so funny that you are also in the world of interiors because I just feel like so many people who do this work have got some affiliation, some background, some knowledge, some work that they’ve done in the world of interior design. Myself included. And another girl I follow, also Georgia, the other astrologer, there is some connection to physical interiors and the energetic interior space. I don’t know what it is.

Jordane Maree: No, I totally see it. I see it so much as well. And I think it’s so cool to put that connection together. And I have pondered on that quite a bit, just wondering I feel like there is quite an intuitive connection with arranging physical space. And in a way that, this has been used in different ancient cultures, the way that energy flows in physical spaces. It’s really cool to see, isn’t it?

Noush: Yeah. At first, I just thought it was maybe a coincidence. And then I kept encountering more people that had this connection as well. And I was like this is too weird, I need to dive in deeper. Cool. That’s that sounds a really interesting journey. And also really nice that you can see how one thing led to another. Because even in the world of astrology, which is the background I come from, it’s definitely a practice where you have to appreciate how one transit might be leading you down the path of something bigger or something that can eventually lead to some form of evolution or soul growth. And perhaps it’s not necessarily feeling once again “success” at the time, but it’s paving the way towards something else. And getting through that is the hard work. But at the end, we get what we get.

Jordane Maree: And I think that’s so great. Because when I reflect on the beginning and the entire journey of Girl and Her Moon and what you’re talking about, it’s always this just giant in my face reminder that I don’t need to control, that I don’t need to clench my hands and figure it all out, that I can’t project myself a year from now and set things into place in a way that feels safe and sturdy, and I can’t move and can’t change. That doesn’t work for me. And I’ve been able to witness throughout these kind of small pockets or chapters throughout Girl and Her Moon and throughout my entire life, where I do go into that mode of trying to control. And it just doesn’t work for me.

Noush: I can relate to that. But also find it so hard, particularly when you’re running a business or running an Instagram page or any kind of an online platform where people are relying on your scheduled posts or your scheduled product or whatever it might be, it’s hard to kind of let that energy guide you. So how do you then kind of balance the needs of the business or the needs of the people that rely on you and also that intuitive energy within you that is trying to get you to kind of go with the flow rather than force certain structures? And how do you find that balance?

Jordane Maree: I think that for anyone that’s going to be an exploration that might take time, because I think that finding that balance is going to be unique to all of us. But I also think that these two seemingly opposing forces want to work together. They want to support each other. That structure really wants to hold the space of safety for that intuitive mystery to be able to move and flow. I’ve found for me that I actually love scheduling. I love due dates and I love things etched into the calendar. I think that we’ve spoken about this a little bit, just a little side note of when there’s something that you’re a little bit nervous about coming up and you’re like sorry, I already put it in the calendar. I can’t I can’t let this fear take over because it’s in the calendar. It’s just, it’s set. And so that’s kind of been the case the whole time. If I think about the membership is a perfect example. So we started our Flow with The Moon membership. We launched it in December of 2019. The first month’s guide was January, 2020, and I was so scared and it took months for that fear to really calm down. But the fact that it was scheduled in, there was people paying for it, it needed to be done. That was the anchor to allow me to move through that fear.

And it’s the same thing with this podcast. This podcast, I know it’s about six months old now, but it still feels to me brand new and it still feels scary and it still feels it’s pushing my limits every single time I sit down to record. But I’ve put it on the calendar. I’ve set a schedule. So I’ve just got to, and don’t get me wrong, if I need more compassion, I need grace and I need a bit more flexibility, I’ll allow that for myself. But I think even setting that structure into place, that’s that kind of more masculine energy that creates the space for that feminine, for that intuitive, for that creative force to be able to move and come into and sit into the physical world.

Noush: I can understand that from the energetic space that you’re speaking about it and also from that more practical space of when you schedule things, you have more free time as opposed to kind of running around in chaos and not knowing how much time you have and how much you don’t have. So kind of organizing yourself allows you more space to play.

Jordane Maree: And that’s taken a while for me to get to a place to find what works for me as well. When I first started Girl and Her Moon, when we were at the space, when Mustafa kind of joined me and created a website for me and it was both of us. Mustafa is my partner by the way, it was both of us kind of feeding into this business where it turned from an Instagram page into something that could be profitable. And I left work, I was like what do I do? Day in, day out, how do I do this human thing now? This is a totally different topic, but I think about this often. It’s like you go to school, they fill your time in with schedules and tell you what to do and they arrange things for you. Same at university, same at work, you turn up and you’re given things to do. Your time is kind of scheduled and taken care of for you. And then you’re suddenly in this world where you have to do it and it’s so confusing. And so it’s taken a while for me to get to a point to find a way of organizing myself and structuring myself. And I think that that’s going to be unique to everyone and just kind of allow the stumbles to take place because that’s where you figure it all out.

Noush: I can definitely relate to that too, as someone who has quit that nine to five world and figuring out how to be accountable for your time and be responsible for your schedule every day. Because you don’t have someone that’s watching over you, it’s just you. So that is definitely a challenge, but part of the process. So then I guess, speaking of chaos and that side of the other side of the coin where we are looking at the real world, and maybe you’ve answered this already, but when we are thinking about everything that’s happening around us, everyday situations, worries, fights with this person or car broke down or whatever, how does Jordane Williams deal with those challenges? How do you stay connected? Do you get frustrated or do you have a practice that allows you to let things flow through you? How do you deal with the chaos of the real world?

Jordane Maree: It’s both. Depends where I’m at and what I’m feeling, I definitely get frustrated. My Aries, Mars warrior wants to come out and fight everything sometimes. But then there’s also times where it’s just a total surrender to it. I think that, I hope that this links in to your question, but I’ve been really exploring, we’re recording this. For me, it’s Tuesday, it’s the day of the lunar eclipse, which is so beautiful.

Noush: We took a big risk recording this on the eclipse.

Jordane Maree: I kind of love it though. It feels really, I just looked at the time and it was 2-2-2-2, but anyway. So I’ve really been exploring the invitations that have been coming through for me around this eclipse season, and it’s been so much about what is the point of all of the sacred work, all of the spiritual work, the meditation, the energy work, astrology, learning, everything. What is the point of all of that, if not to be deeper etched into this human experience and everything that it involves? I think sometimes for me, it’s been really easy to put myself in a little bubble and just be in this spiritual world, especially when it’s my business, when the conversations that I’m having are always geared into this direction. So it can be easy to isolate myself a little bit and see a separation between the two, but I’m starting to really understand that to me anyway, there shouldn’t be a separation. The sacred work that I am guided to deepen into is my experience in life. And I’m hoping that that is grounded enough to make sense.

Noush: So do you separate your spiritual work from your business work, or is it you’re trying to find a way to combine them? Is that what you’re…

Jordane Maree: Well, no, they’re kind of, to me, my business and spiritual work is very, they’re kind of intertwined. And that’s because, like I said previously, Girl and Her Moon has been the doorway for me to really explore a lot of this work, because it takes me in a lot of different directions that I perhaps wouldn’t go into if I’ve not kind of pushed in that direction as Girl and Her Moon does. But…

Noush: So then do you have a practice that you have daily that allows you to stay kind of focused in this space or allows you to stay grounded in some way? What is your spiritual practice entail?

Jordane Maree: That changes all the time, as I think it should, because we are always changing. We wanted to update and be able to support who we are kind of evolving into in each moment. But I do kind of foundational energetic hygiene things most days. And I have a really beautiful mentor and I’m in a really beautiful kind of container that supports me a lot. And there’s been a lot of growth for me there. And that is what I think allows me to be present in everything that the human experience entails. So in those frustrating moments, in those moments of sadness or overwhelm or whatever it might be. My cat’s trying to get in. Being able to I think something that’s been really present for me at this time, and I’m still deepening into this, but it’s being clear and grounded and learning what my energy is without influence of all of these external things. Those difficult conversations, how they just kind of stick in your aura and you’re like and they just keep replaying or whatever it might be.

Finding the space each day to witness who I am without all of this external stuff inside of my space and inside of my mind then allows me to be present in all of the world, the outside world, and notice this situation, I do this. When I’m in a crowded space, I hide almost this in a subtle energetic way or in a lot of these conversations, I find myself close off whatever it might be in frustrating moments, I find myself push out and try to force. And so having a practice where you are able to witness your energy without all of those external influences and then being able to go out into the world, I think that’s where the real learning happens because you can you can do all the energy work you want, you can do all the meditation that you want, but it’s not until you’re actually on the field of life playing the game that you begin to see your reaction to things. And through those reactions, you get to see your invitations into deeper healing. Because in those conversations, in those difficult conversations where you realize you shut down, for example, and you see that as a pattern coming up and coming up and coming up, that’s just this constant invitation from life. It’s here, this is where you’re ready to heal. Here, we’re ready to face this. You know what I mean?

Noush: Yeah, that’s so beautiful. That’s such a good reminder that you can do so much work on your own, but until you’re out on the field, essentially playing the game, you’re not going to be able to test your skills and test what you’re learning in your own space. So that’s a really good reminder.

Jordane Maree: And I think there’s probably going to be seasons in your life where all you are guided to do is just be on your own and be in your practice. And then there’s seasons where you’re just out in the world for a while. So we don’t need to try to force one way or the other. When we are continuously just following that next step and that next step and that next step and what direction you’re guided into intuitively, you’ll see that kind of play out.

Noush: Definitely. There’s a great quote, and I just don’t remember it right now, but something about life being or people being for a season, a reason or a lifetime. Is that the quote?

Jordane Maree: I don’t know if I’ve heard that.

Noush: I have heard it a while ago and I may have just butchered it, but it’s something that.

Jordane Maree: Well, we can find it if you want after this and we’ll pop it in the show notes.

Noush: So then you spend a good amount of time then on your own, just connecting to your own energy each day. Is that through some kind of meditation practice? Do you try different things? Is it through journaling? What is the practice? What is the secret, Jordane? Give us the secret sauce. I know.

Jordane Maree: It’s really hard for me to just be like it’s this, this, this, step one. Because it changes and it shifts so much. And I think something that I’ve been pondering on a little bit is if you do have a set practice or there’s a meditation that just feels really good, a guided one, or if a journal practice, whatever it is, I feel like those things are actually doorways into the present moment. And then that present moment will actually guide you into your most healing energy work. So as an example, there’s been times where it’s like I sit down to journal in the morning and then certain emotions come up or I notice certain changes in my energy. And then it’s through that presence with what comes up that you’re then guided to, I don’t know, move your body or you’re guided to move energy through your body and take things out and ground and clear and whatever it is. And suddenly you’ve just made up this new, weird magical practice that probably does exist, but you’re just intuitively guided into it.

There is a practice that I’ve actually tried to recreate in our membership. It’s coming out, it’s out this month. It’s for the Sagittarius new moon that for me is a foundational energy practice. And it works a lot on firstly grounding, connecting to the earth and then opening up above to the divine. So you’ve got both that grounded and that expansive energy moving through you. And these are the kind of the main objectives. It’s also clearing your energy from external influences, again, from conversations that you’ve had, from social media. when you have the intention to clear any social media energy out of your aura, it’s all of this stuff just pours out and out and out. And you’re like I feel so different from people around you, from collective beliefs, from the collective shifts and evolutions that are happening that might be hanging onto you a bit too heavy and in the way of you experiencing your own evolution and shifts.

So clearing a lot of that out and then calling back your own energy, again, from any conversations that you’ve left your energy and from social media where you’ve left your energy, from any of those things that are recurring in your mind and you’re trying to remember and looping around and trying to control. Calling all of that back into the present moment. And then those four, I think four objectives to me are foundational. And I do that most mornings, but it’s also come to a point where it’s throughout the day, do I feel grounded? Or do I feel I’m floating in the air? Or can I just check on my crown chakra? Am I connected to what’s above me? Do I feel the influence of someone else in my field, pushing on me? All of those things you can just notice throughout the day and just begin to, even just with intention, just move those things out.

Noush: I think you’ve touched on some really sensitive topics that I think a lot of people feel, which is awesome, because I really want to talk to you about them. But I think what you’re talking about with people’s energy kind of forcing into you or conversations that you’ve had or words, that kind of ruminate or thoughts that ruminate in our minds and they take up energetic space and it becomes such a point of tension in our field and in our bodies, it creates disease or dis-ease, discomfort. And that process of letting that go can be so difficult sometimes. how I don’t know the question I’m trying to ask, but relationships and the way that we connect to people is such a significant part of our experience because we are communal species. We need connection, we need community. At the same time, those connections and those people are the same bodies of energy and forces that can really trigger deep, uncomfortable feelings and create uncomfortable situations and trigger our wounds and create whatever, horrible experiences we go through in our lives.

They come through being part of those communities and those families and those relationships. For you, I’m still figuring it out. And I think most of us are, I don’t know, I think maybe there’s a few people who have worked it out, unless you just completely escape from society and live in an ashram or wherever it is, by yourself, how do you manage relationships and how do you find success in relationships and protect your energy when there are thoughts and conversations that maybe keep you up or maybe they don’t keep you up. How do you kind of manage that side of the human experience because it’s such a big part of it.

Jordane Maree: It’s huge and I can’t speak for everyone, but this is a dynamic that has been coming up a lot for me. I feel like it’s probably one of the most complex parts of being a human and complicated and confusing. And I think kind of what I was saying before, when you can come into a place where you are in this deeper relationship with the self and deeper relationship with what your energy feels like and enough space and time to explore your own perspectives of the world, that’s when you can actually arrive surrounded by all the people in the world, but you can show up in a deeper presence and at the same time be able to differentiate between this is mine, this is theirs and or this is theirs, but this would be cool to explore a little bit in my own way. Interactions are hard. We touched on this a little bit before we pressed record.

So I’ve noticed that every podcast that I’ve sat down to do with someone else, there is a clear, subtle, but very clear difference between the Jordane that is pre-call, the Jordane in the conversation before you press record, and then the Jordane when you press record. It’s these three different dynamics come through because we’re having a conversation now, but there’s so much more going on in this unseen, energetic space. We’re having a conversation, you might be thinking about next question’s to ask so I can keep this rolling or, and I might be thinking about what are the people thinking about me that are listening to this six months from now, a year from now? And I might be thinking about what is Noush thinking about me? There’s all these extra things going on and then the nervous system trying to juggle all of it. What is happening? And so those simple and foundational practices, I think with the self, coming back to the self, allow you to navigate the more, the complexities of relationships and interactions in a way that they don’t become easy, but they become more fluid and you become more aware of what’s happening.

Noush: I think I kind of understand what you’re saying. Just for the record, for most of this, I’ve been thinking, I really hope my mic is working.

Jordane Maree: Well, I can see, do you see the little, the sound movie thingies next to your name?

Noush: I see them next to your name and that’s why I’m thinking, oh man, I really hope my mic is working.

Jordane Maree: I can see them next to your name if that helps.

Noush: That does help. So now I’m going to have a completely different thought because that’s been running through my head.

Jordane Maree: Well, whenever someone else comes on the podcast, I’m like what’s my next question going to be? Shit what if they stop talking and I have nothing to say? So that’s why I kind of brought that up with you. That’s a really annoying thing that I’m trying to move through and just totally disregard because it’s silly.

Noush: I don’t think it’s silly. I think first of all, it’s normal to feel that way when you’re…

Jordane Maree: Definitely normal.

Noush: When you’re having a conversation that is recorded that potentially many people are going to listen to. So you kind of, that’s the pressure you put on yourself. But also for me, the thought of, I hope the mic is working kind of override that thought of what my next question is going to be.

Jordane Maree: Well, that’s a huge thought. That’s a huge concern to be hanging around.

Noush: But I think also what you said about earlier before we hit record, what you said about this being a playground and even just thinking about it more as a conversation because being a Sagittarius moon, and I don’t know if you saw my story post today about my emotional comfort coming from deep philosophical conversations and higher wisdom and spiritual gurus and travel and all of that. Being in these kinds of conversations, I do see it as a playground. So I keep reminding myself that this is just a really fun conversation. And so speaking of which, moving through this eclipse, is there any way that you find when you’re in a uncomfortable situation, whether it’s with a person, whether it’s with your own subconscious fears or insecurities, is there something that you do to bring yourself back into emotional security? Just speaking of that moon energy, is there anything that makes you feel at ease and comforted?

Jordane Maree: Do you know what this particular eclipse season has felt much more supportive and beautiful than the last. The last one I kind of just fell apart. And I really did struggle with the last eclipse season. And so for me at that point, it came to relying on the people around me, to support me and to hold me and to bring a sense of safety into my being. That makes me lots of rest.

Noush: And you are a Libra moon from what I remember. Is that right?

Jordane Maree: Yeah.

Noush: So the people and having those connections and those interactions maybe could be something that feeds that energy, would you say?

Jordane Maree: For sure. And even conversations this, to me, this is safety and it’s support because in the questions that we’re exploring, within them, there’s these kind of sparkles of reminder of you’re safe, you’re loved. That’s why I love looking back at the journey of Girl and Her Moon and how it unfolded so intuitively. Because that’s just the biggest reminder ever that there’s this greater force. Maybe it’s a part of me, maybe it’s my soul, maybe it’s something else, I don’t know. I don’t need to know to be honest. But there’s this greatest something that is always guiding me and it’s always holding me. And my deepest belief is at the bottom of everything, my deepest belief and I feel very lucky to almost have this as my default, is I’m going to be okay. It’s going to work out.

And like I said, conversations this and the people around me, especially the people that are kind of more in this world, last eclipse season, I really relied on two things quite heavily. And this isn’t available for everyone, but for me it was acupuncture and it was, what’s it called? Oh no, one sec, one sec, let me get the word because I don’t want to — it’s a type of chiropractor. I don’t know, it’s a type of chiropractor work that’s very subtle and supportive. It doesn’t crack any bones or anything. Spinal network, spinal network, that’s it. So anyway, so the people around me that I just love, my family and my now husband were very supportive. And then works that, real somatic healing was the biggest medicine in the world.

Noush: That sounds so, so good right now, especially this eclipse season when I feel like I don’t know about other people. I feel like many people are feeling this. I’m definitely feeling this as an Aquarius sun, big signs, I see you, sending you all of the love and the support. But this eclipse season has definitely been a doozy, that’s a nice North American word I can use. It’s been a doozy and that sounds so good right now.

Jordane Maree: It’s so supportive. What’s been coming up for you? What have been, if you could identify the themes?

Noush: So I think you saw when I was traveling not that long ago, the things coming up for me were very literal to my ninth house. Extremely literal to the planets involved, the other houses being triggered, it was quite bizarre. I don’t think I’ve paid attention to astrology being that literal in my life before. And now I’m seeing, with Pluto currently transiting exactly over my Venus, I’m seeing another very literal example of that, which I won’t get into, but it’s been a very literal eclipse experience, I would say. This Taurus eclipse feels a little bit more unsettling and very unexpected. And I think particularly with the Mercury energy and Scorpio, that Uranus energy in Taurus, it has brought unexpected pieces of information to surface that have sparked change in a very sudden way. And it sparked a realization of needing to change something. And in a way it’s very difficult, it’s very uncomfortable and unsettling and it completely shifts my trajectory.

But at the same time, I know, like you said, what you feel, everything’s going to be. when you’re connected to this work and you understand how it works and you understand its impact on everybody and the world around you, you just know there’s nothing else that can explain it but that. You just know it’s going to be okay even when it’s not, even when it’s really not. And I’ve honestly been through some really challenging things that I never thought I would experience in my life. You just don’t think you’re going to experience certain things and then it happens and you find a way out of it. And it’s just a reminder that everything is going to be okay if you stay connected to that, if you believe in that and you believe in that fire within you, that light source within you, it is going to be okay. That’s my Ted Talk for this eclipse.

Jordane Maree: It was beautiful. And I think also that belief or that knowing, it really is a muscle to begin to trust it and rely on it more. And so compassion for the self for moments where you feel completely disconnected from that is just as important. You don’t need to force yourself into something that you can’t yet feel safe with and that’s okay.

Noush: So that leads me to a question here, which is when you are experiencing those moments of confusion, is it my intuition or is it my fear? Is it my mind at work or is it that feeling that is coming from source at work? How do you differentiate between those two voices? Because both of them can be very loud at times and sometimes you don’t know which one you’re listening to. So for you, it’s still a work in progress for me at the very least, trying to differentiate. And I think I’ve also realized that it’s a muscle, as you said, and it’s a practice you have to keep going at, whether it’s through meditation or journaling, it’s kind of a practice you have to keep going at to be able to differentiate. But how do you find that difference and know which voice you’re listening to?

Jordane Maree: I don’t want to keep hopping on the same thing, but it’s becoming so much clearer as the past six months or so, and as I continue to just be a human, how influenced we are by outside perspectives. And so most of the time, if I’m feeling something that feels too much, too much for my system, my body just feels like it’s going to crack open and fall on the ground. That was a bit intense.

Noush: Hello, eclipse, definitely feeling that.

Jordane Maree: In those moments, my main intention is to understand how much of this emotion or how much of these thoughts ruminating in my mind are actually mine. And this isn’t something that I can analyze in any way. This might sound weird, but a lot of the time, if I’m feeling something really intense. I’ll kind of close my eyes, come into my body and almost visualize all of that emotion coming into this ball in front of me. I’ll move it outside of my field. It’s not directly eating away at me, move it outside of your field, put a bit of a distance. Sometimes I need to imagine literal windows in between me and this thing to be separated from it. I then ask the earth, I ask my guides, ask life whatever to clear away what isn’t mine. And often you see that ball shrink and it gets much smaller and much smaller and much smaller. Usually, a figure comes into my mind where it’s 80% of what I was feeling and ruminating over wasn’t mine.

And then this remaining 20% or whatever it might be, it’s like if this is mine, how can I make a home for this in my body? How can I love this, whatever is needing love? How can I be with this thing and experience whatever I need to experience with it? Just such a huge theme in my life right now is clearing away what’s not mine, especially in those moments of intensity. Every time I do that, the difference is crazy. And a teacher of mine said recently, which I really loved, was what is yours to feel? You have the capacity to feel that. Your body isn’t going to give you a life, isn’t going to give you more than what you can hold in that moment. And if it feels like it’s so much more than what you can hold, there’s probably a lot of stuff, a lot of fluff around it that’s not yours to hold.

Noush: Basically, when you’re feeling like it’s just too much energy, then most likely there’s something there which is not yours, because it’s…

Jordane Maree:  I can never say anything objective, this is the truth, but that has just been huge in my experience lately and it’s been incredibly helpful. it’s been absolute medicine.

Noush: I like that. I personally definitely needed that message, but that’s really beautiful to kind of try to separate yourself from that energy and see it as separate to you so that you can kind of connect back to yourself and realize what’s yours and maybe what’s not yours.

Jordane Maree: Because whatever’s yours showing up, you are safe enough to feel it and hold it and be with it. And the more you can be with it external from all of that extra stuff, that’s where the doorway, your doorway is into whatever, into a deeper communion with life, into greater presence, into more healing, into more of yourself, however you want to label that.

Noush: I like that word that you use, that you feel safe in it. So, when it’s yours, you feel safe in it. And even if it’s challenging, there’s an inherent feeling of safety with it rather than fear associated to it. I’m going to go backtrack a little bit because you said something earlier and I remember thinking, I want to ask about that. So I’m going to go backwards a little bit. So we were talking about people and relationships and then you mentioned Mustafa and how you recently got married; congratulations again.

Jordane Maree: Thank you.

Noush: And you’re just working with different people and you work with Mustafa as well. Is he in this world? Does he believe in this world? Is this something you practice together? How does that work? How’s that dynamic work?

Jordane Maree: That’s an interesting question. I was chatting with a friend of mine recently and we kind of came to this observation of very often, the people that don’t label themselves as spiritual or whatever are actually they hold this deep rooted, anchored sense of spirituality, but it’s not kind of in the world of what we associate with spirituality. I meditate, or I know astrology, all of the checklist that we see is so common. It’s just this deeper presence that they hold with life. And that’s the kind of, I suppose, spirituality that Mustafa holds. He’s so much more grounded than me. I really need to work and not work, that’s not the right word. I need to consciously ground often. Otherwise, I will just float up into the cosmos and just be like potentials, fun. In the realm of energy I’m very happy and comfortable there, but being rooted and grounded on the earth, that takes my, again, I don’t want to say effort, but it is, I suppose, effort. I need to remind myself often.

And so that’s his essence of spirituality, I suppose. But we don’t really, in kind of the early days of Girl and Her Moon, I would try to be like come and meditate with me. And he just didn’t have it. He just wasn’t here for it. And I was like that’s fine. But we have these kinds of conversations. And to me, that’s so much more important than coming together and meditating. I find it really hard to meditate when someone’s next to me anyway. But he’s in this world in his own way.

Noush: So I guess there is a connection there and that’s where the support comes from to work alongside you. That’s so nice to have someone that understands without necessarily kind of needing to be there all the time through all your processes. This is my Aquarius energy coming out, being space is wonderful.

Jordane Maree: I’m really lucky that we’re both like that. We both need space. I feel like this was on purpose. We’re in a house right now where my room is down, not my room, my office is downstairs on one side of the house. And his is way over on the other side of the house, upstairs. And I feel on some level, we did that on purpose because we’re like we need space. Because we work together every day, we’re at home every day. So space is very, very important.

Noush: Yes, definitely. And I guess you and Mustapha would have been doing this way before COVID as well. So this is something you’ve kind of practiced and that just kind of flew by in terms of the work from home and being around your partner 24/7.

Jordane Maree: We had to do a hotel quarantine with him when we came back to Australia and we were isolated in this tiny little hotel room for 14 days. And so many people experienced such challenge with that. And we just flew through it. We were like this is fun. People bringing our food every day. We don’t need to do dishes. There’s no washing. It’s just fun. We’re in this hotel room. It was just normal to us at that point.

Noush: Goals, relationship goals. Have you two done a sinistery chart or a sinister reading or compatibility? No?

Jordane Maree: No. Mustafa doesn’t want it. Just downright does not want that. A lot of his hesitancy comes from, I think trusting the person delivering the information and the perspectives that, that person’s coming from. And this is something that I think we’ve spoken about quite a lot. It’s so important to understand that every single word that comes out of an astrologer or Tyra Reader’s mouth is going to be framed by their own experience. Maybe often there’s going to be massive strands of truth in what’s coming through, but it might be laced with some extra stuff that might not feel right. And if you’re at a stage in your life where you are taking on everything said as truth. Mustafa’s perspective is, if I really welcome, full heartedly welcome in someone else’s perspective to tell me about my relationship and don’t resist against it, it’s going to be present whether it was or not. And he’s super Scorpio energy. And so he can be quite distrusting and really private and he doesn’t really let people in to his world too much. I think that plays its part.

Noush: I see. Is he a Scorpio sun?

Jordane Maree: He’s a Scorpio rising, but he’s also Pluto first house, sun eighth house.

Noush: I see. So a little skeptical, a little.

Jordane Maree: For sure.

Noush: It’s always good. I have to say that is a good perspective. It’s a good way to understand that this is just guidance. And if you were to learn about your own astrology, you might see things a little differently. Or if you try a few different astrologers, you might gain something a little different from each person based on their own energy, based on where they’re coming from, whether they have particular energy in their chart, which maybe is more grounded and practical, or maybe it’s more uplifting, motivational, maybe it’s more emotional and intense. It just really depends as well on the person. So that’s a good point.

Jordane Maree: And I don’t mean to discredit any of this in any way, obviously my entire business is built around it and my love for it. But I think it’s incredibly important to come in just knowing that a filter is in place and bringing the words said again into your own field and seeing what is resonant for you and what isn’t and being okay to leave behind what isn’t or being okay to saying maybe later to some of the things that don’t feel right for now, if that makes sense.

Noush: That makes perfect sense. I was having a conversation with somebody not that long ago. And I started talking about astrology and asking about their astrology and they didn’t really believe in it, which is fine. But they were open to listening to it. And they pointed out that this is the lens to which you see the world. And the lens to which I see the world is different. It’s through my medical background or my whatever it is, my lens is different to yours. So you’re perceiving the situation based on that. So in a similar way, approaching any reading or approaching any situation through your lens, it’s kind of important to also understand maybe that you are coming at it from that. And potentially, there are different perspectives, there are different ways of viewing anything in life, any situation, because everyone, everything has its own scope. It has its own viewfinder on it that it’s also projecting.

Jordane Maree: For sure. And I think I said earlier something coming to a place of clearness in your own space and your own energy where you can tell what’s yours and what isn’t. But it’s also really fun to say, well, this isn’t mine, this perspective, but maybe I’ll try it on for a little while and I’ll see what happens. And I’ll see what new doors into life it opens up for me to explore. I think that’s a really beautiful thing as well.

Noush: Do you know what just came to my mind? When you go to the optometrist and that giant machine comes in front of your face and they spin those little lenses in front of your eyes, and they’re is it one or is it two? And it’s slight variations and you’re like well, they both kind of work, but maybe this one, maybe that one. So it was just that kind of image just popped up into my head.

Jordane Maree: I think that’s perfect. And just eyes, well at least just mine anyway, because mine continually getting worse. the lens through which is right for you will always shift throughout your life.

Noush: Perfect. That’s perfect. Just how our eyes, mine too, will continually keep getting worse. Our lives will continually keep evolving.

Jordane Maree: Yes. I’m glad it didn’t go in the direction of your life will also continue to get worse.

Noush: You know what though? I do have to say that I learned about these eye exercises that my cousin was doing. It was a series of movements and it was also a series of focusing on different points, different distances. His eyes got better.

Jordane Maree: Are you serious?

Noush: His eyesight got better. So change is available.

Jordane Maree: I need those.

Noush: I’ll send you those notes after this.

Jordane Maree: Thank you. I put in my contacts yesterday and one of them was just it was so blurry and I just couldn’t see through it. And I was like damn it. My eyes have gotten worse again. I need a new script. I need thicker glasses or something. I need those exercises.

Noush: No, you need to try these. His eyes improved, which was shocking. And I tried them and my eyes did not get worse for a year, which is good news. I will definitely send you those. So do we want to wrap up the questions that you do — how are you feeling? How are you doing?

Jordane Maree: I’m feeling good. This has been fun. I feel like with the intention of this being a playground and kind of played out that way. So it’s been nice and I’m happy to wrap up whenever you want.

Noush: I just had a couple of questions, but I did want to ask some fun questions and while we’re here in this space talking about our horrible eyesight and such. Are you reading anything fun at the moment? Because I’m always looking for new things to new books to read or podcasts to listen to, or I know this is weird to plug somebody else, but are you listening, reading, watching anything that’s fun, inspiring?

Jordane Maree: I’m not in a chapter of listening to a lot of things. I kind of dipping in and out of that world. But I I’m always reading. I don’t remember the last time I wasn’t reading a book at the moment I’m reading. I hope I get the name right. The mysteries of the dark moon, which is very aligned with the eclipses that we’re currently in. It’s very Scorpio, Pluto, eighth house energy. It’s heavy and it’s incredible. I think that would spy Demetra George. Do you know her work?

Noush: I do not.

Jordane Maree: Well, she’s an astrologer and she brings in a lot of archetypes and what’s the word I’m trying to think of. I can’t think of it. But anyway, history and psychology and all these different things she weaves into her astrology and how to view particular energies or archetypes from — it’s really, really cool. It’s a lot about the kind of more mysterious rejected feminine energy within a soul. And it looks back at different histories within religion when it was previously a more matriarchal society and culture and how it shifted into a more patriarchal and all of the collective things that have come with that. And I’m also reading something about superhuman. Let me just Google it real quick.

Noush: Oh, is that the Joe Dispenser book?

Jordane Maree: Joe Dispenser. That’s it.

Noush: He is amazing.

Jordane Maree: Becoming supernatural. It’s good.

Noush: I love his meditations.

Jordane Maree: Me too. There’s this one that I, I did almost every day last month and then I was like I’m done, but it was so good. I can share it in the notes for this. I loved it. Becoming supernatural is a really, really good book. Have you read it?

Noush: I have started listening to it actually. And then I listened to four books at once. So this is one of them, but I love his work. It’s amazing.

Jordane Maree: I love being able to take what I feel like so many of us intuitively know and sense and having this almost food for the mind to then integrate it even deeper. I think that allows you to experience and embody whatever it is with such greater depth. It’s great.

Noush: And also to witness it in the real world. I think that’s what I love about his work is that he interviews people who have lived through transformation and that’s seeing, I think he said that seeing is believing. I don’t know. Am I quoting him? But I just…

Jordane Maree: I think so.

Noush: I feel like I’ve heard him say that so many times, but witnessing that, or even hearing about those transformations is a 3D reality of what we are trying to figure out through this work.

Jordane Maree: It’s this huge injection of hope again.

Noush: Hope and faith in the process. So then do you feel like you’re living your purpose? Do you feel like this is, you’re aligned and you’re in your purpose?

Jordane Maree: I love that you’re just casually putting in this giant question at the end. This is huge.

Noush: Just do.

Jordane Maree: I feel like there’s so many directions that that question could take us in. There’s the ongoing pondering thought of what purpose is, is it this outside objective thing? Is it multiple things? Is it this, it’s such a huge thing to unpack, but I would tell you this, the way that I kind of would almost measure that is through fulfillment. When things feel right, when things feel they’re feeding me and nourishing me as much as I’m feeding and nourishing them, that to me is the equivalent of purpose. And I think this year has been a major realignment into that where I don’t know if you’ve experienced this, but it’s like you didn’t realize that you were missing something. And then you get you find yourself on the path that just feels right. And you’re like oh my God, this was missing. And I didn’t even realize, but now things just feel so good. This year has been a major, I think realignment of that for me. And so I feel very, very lucky.

Noush: Sorry. That was a very loaded segue.

Jordane Maree: No, that’s totally good.

Noush: It just felt right. I was Joe just spends a purpose. Got to ask this question. But I do know what you mean by that feeling of — the feeling of just knowing that it’s right. And that kind of guiding that sense of purpose and that alignment to your purpose and that fulfillment in what you’re doing. For me, it has become very apparent that it is a constant work in progress because I recall having such a strong feeling that this feels right. This feels like exactly where I’m supposed to be. This feels like exactly what I’m supposed to be doing. Everything was kind of lining me up, opening doors for me in a certain direction. And then as soon as I kind of got comfortable in that space or lazy in that space or allowed somebody else, whether it was a partner or friends, opinions, or families, opinions, or anyone, anyone’s thoughts, opinions, or judgments to enter my field, it wavered. And I found myself doubting and I found myself losing that steady drive towards, or that steady movement in the direction of that fulfillment. It felt kind of way. So for me, it feels like it’s just this constant work in progress to stay in that alignment. And it’s just not something you achieve. You’re just on it. You’re on that journey.

Jordane Maree: I agree. And then that could also open the possibility of well, through your experience of that wavering that you’ve spoken about, that is just another doorway deeper into your own understanding of yourself and deeper understanding into your own, what is right for you. And so in a way, I’m kind of always well, it’s all on purpose. But it’s like you said, you never just arrive at this place and it’s like you’re done now. You’re on purpose. It’s going to remain the same. It’s all good. it, it’s a pathway. It’s going to keep going all the time, all the time, all the time. And can I just bring a practical example into this? I think this podcast is a major part of that deeper fulfillment that I was talking about. I’ve kind of flopped into this year. And at the same time, I mentioned a little bit, it’s still something that scares me every time I sit down to record. And every time I finish recording my mind’s moving with, did I say the right thing? Do I need to edit myself more?

And sometimes it’s this feeling of I’ve been too vulnerable or I haven’t been enough. All of these stories play out, but unless I was on the path of doing that thing, unless I was taking that action, in the field, I’ve spoken about doing it, I wouldn’t meet those parts of myself that I can then, I can soften those edges. And it’s through that pushing out of what is comfortable, meeting those edges, meeting those limits that you can begin to integrate those limits or perceived limits, those fears, whatever they might be, those stories. I literally forgot why I started talking about this.

Noush: We were talking about, oh my gosh, I was listening to you and I was so enthralled by what you were saying, but I’ve kind of forgotten where I started as well. But I think you’re faced with difficult situations in your life or challenges or whatever it might be, or people or different people’s judgments or criticisms or your own judgmental mind. And it allows you to kind of understand when you’re wavering, it helps you to understand what is for you, what’s not for you and to help you refocus. Am I kind of getting back onto the path? I feel like we’ve both wavered a little bit.

Jordane Maree: For sure. And my mind keeps going all these different directions and I know that we want to wrap up soon, but I was just thinking when you were saying how, I’ve been kind of nerding out on the Asin, the seven Asin mirrors lately. I don’t know if you’ve heard of the Asins in any way, but if it’s something for you to explore go for it. And so I’ve kind of been viewing my viewing life through that lens a little bit. And so if there’s you mentioned, there’s people coming in and bringing in those judgments that could really be an opportunity for you to meet those parts of yourself that are holding that judgment or holding the fear that this is right for you or that you do deserve this or whatever it might be, that still are alive within you. And then that in itself is this greater opportunity to deepen into your knowing that yes, it is to begin to soothe those, any of those inner fears or those inner doubts. And with that, it’s just this greater access to more knowing and guidance.

Noush: It’s kind of you’re fine tuning your dial that radio frequency so that you can attract what is for you. And eliminate the kind of fuzzy sounds and the fuzzy words and thoughts or whatever is kind of coming through a different station. You’re like no, it’s not that one.

Jordane Maree: But you’ll probably continue to just meet more subtle and more subtle and more subtle of those fuzziness. And you’re just like well, I’ve done this before. I know what to do.

Noush: That’s true. I know exactly how to tune this dial to get it back into the frequency that fits with me. So that Essene stuff, I know I’m just keep going to, is this kind of mirroring when you are viewing the world and as a mirror of your internal world? Is that kind of…

Jordane Maree: Yeah, so the Essenes were, I almost feel hesitant to talk about it because there’s so much depth and richness in this body of people that I don’t want to do it injustice, but kind of an ancient sect, I suppose. A lot of people think that Jesus was trained in the Essene way and things that. They kind of came up with these seven categories of how these, how life reflects itself to you of what’s going on internally and the different ways that it works. I can’t label them all. I’m sorry, I just don’t remember.

Noush: That’s okay, that kind of answers what I was thinking about it. So it’s the very, generally speaking, because I haven’t looked into this, but generally speaking, it’s your outer world being somewhat of a reflection of your inner world, but really just, I really want to communicate that when you are going through something extremely challenging or you’re met up with something that just feels out of the world, difficult, that’s not always a reflection of you and you being faced with something that is really damaging to you is not always on you for having that within you. Sometimes it’s…

Jordane Maree: Definitely not.

Noush: And you can feel free to chime in and I’d love to hear your perspective on it. But for me, the way I view it is sometimes that is the universe, God, source, whatever you believe in, it’s that universal way of really helping you understand what is for you, what you want to define yourself to, or what you want to align yourself to. And maybe that was one kind of avenue or it’s a tricky area to kind of discuss, but just to understand that everything that happens to you is not because something internally is going on for you.

Jordane Maree: For sure. And I think that the perspective, that mirroring concept often comes from, which is quite distorted can be it takes you into this blaming self-blame space. And I don’t think that, that is even what it is even close to in its truth. But I totally agree. Invitation has become one of just, it’s such a present word in my life, viewing everything as an invitation. If this feels horrible, what could be my invitation here? I feel like I’m kind of breezing through this eclipse season at the moment. I feel like it’s a lot, you’re not breezing through it. It’s more a storm right now for you. Just by judging of what we’ve spoken about. And so I never want to come from a place that’s no, we’re all good, let me just discredit your feelings. Because if I was going through a storm, maybe the words that I’m saying or the lens that I’m looking through would be different. And now I forgot what I was going to say, but…

Noush: Mirroring and…

Jordane Maree: So something that I was just pondering on and again, this is coming from the place that I’m in right now. And it might not be for everyone, but it’s I notice I notice often that when I’m being called to move in a certain direction, or I have this greater intention, that’s like I want to be more on purpose or I want to feel more fulfilled. I want to feel more present in my life. So often you kind of start to move forward in time and it just feels like everything turns to crap. When you come from this confident space of yes, I’m ready for this deeper embodiment or this deeper knowing, and it just feels like everything around you falls apart. So often that happens to me really subtle and really huge in both ways. And in that I’ve kind of realized that often that intention is what guides that falling apart almost because sometimes things need to fall apart for whatever that intention is to be present. Does that make sense?

Noush: It definitely makes sense. It’s very kind of very relevant to the eclipse that something to break, something to really, really not be there for you anymore in order for something else to come into that space or for you to find your stability or your grounding in something else. But unless something breaks, unless something is removed, there’s no space for that new thing. So it’s I feel like we all know that, but when you’re in it and you’re attached and when that the feeling, that human feeling of comfort in familiarity creeps in, it’s so hard to let go and say goodbye or allow things to crumble or allow something to be eclipsed essentially out of your life. It’s hard. It’s hard, but I feel like I’m basically saying it’s so hard being a human, but it’s actually, it’s an adventure. It’s fun at the same time. It’s just, I don’t want to sound all doom and gloom.

Jordane Maree: No, it’s totally both. It’s absolutely both. And I think that I’ve kind of been playing around with, again, something that is really difficult to do is trying not to separate this is good and this is bad. As in this is my good human experience where it’s fun and easy and joyful and the stuff over there that’s hard will just that’s bad. That’s in a separate category. I feel like we came into this life to be fully present in all of this humanness. And it can be really hard sometimes, but I think that there’s just such invitation and such evolution and such fulfillment and such magic within even that darkness.

Noush: Definitely. And appreciating those dark moments because often it’s sometimes you go through those moments and you have these insanely amazing experiences after them it’s so getting through.

Jordane Maree: For sure. I was literally just thinking about how seeds sprout. It’s this nothingness for a while. And then out of nowhere, it’s just ping, and then they find their way up into flowers. But there’s that stage of nothingness and that emptiness that can be, it’s like that, that nothingness is where our structure is taken away. It’s where our safety is taken away, which is such a huge theme this eclipse season. But so much sprouts from that unknown, from that mystery, from that darkness.

Noush: What a beautiful metaphor for the Taurus Scorpio eclipse axes. Perfect.

Jordane Maree: Well, it’s because I planted little seedlings outside and I’ve been really eagerly watching them sprout, but they’re taking a really long time.

Noush: They’re in their nothing phase right now. You got to let them do their thing in the darkness. So I think we’ve kind of covered everything that I wanted to ask you. What do you do for fun? I just want to know what do you do for fun outside of this world? Do you roller skate? Do you play? What do you do outside of being Girl and Her Moon?

Jordane Maree: I said to you over a year ago that you inspired me to get rollerblades and I still haven’t gotten them. And I’m so sad. I should really get them. Because I was a really good rollerblader when I was a kid. I loved it, but what I do for fun now. Well, have you heard of A-ring?

Noush: A-ring?

Jordane Maree: Aerial ring?

Noush: Oh yes.

Jordane Maree: So fun little fact. This sounds weird when I say that loud. I actually grew up in a circus school.

Noush: Oh my gosh. I wish I knew this sooner. That is so cool.

Jordane Maree: And so I grew up doing a lot of different aerial circus arts and things that. And just this year I’ve been missing it so much. And so I found somewhere nearby that did classes and I’m loving it so much.

Noush: What? So is this immersion, French immersion, but it’s circus immersion?

Jordane Maree: What’s French immersion?

Noush: I think it’s where you do half your classes in French. It’s bilingual, I think.

Jordane Maree: So it was so picture a normal high school. You’ve got your periods. I don’t know what they’re called. Not in Australia. Some of those periods were math. Some of them were science. Some of them were circus. A lot of training. So, it was full on. There was multiple hours of training every single day we performed and it was a really cool experience. I feel really grateful that that’s how I grew up.

Noush: Oh my God. I have the biggest smile on my face right now because I’m so excited to learn this about you.

Jordane Maree: It’s pretty cool.

Noush: I wish I went to circus school. That sounds so fun.

Jordane Maree: It was fun.

Noush: So that’s where the magic was born. It came out of circus school. How do I say this? I don’t know how to say it. The magic started from a young age.

Jordane Maree: Yes. I suppose it was there’s an element of expression and connection and it’s through the body when you’re performing in different ways. Maybe, I don’t know.

Noush: I haven’t really looked into the history of circus arts or really diving deep into it. But when I think about the circus, besides when I think about good images of the circus, I think of I don’t know, performers and people who can do wildly incredible things with their bodies. I even for some reason think of magicians, there’s such an interesting, a magical element to that whole practice.

Jordane Maree: It’s definitely fantastical.

Noush: Exactly. It’s an imagined kind of world and landscape there. You got it. We got to the bottom of it. Amazing. Well, this has been really fun. This has been really fun. And I’ve loved chatting with you. Thank you for opening up about a bunch of things and letting us into your world. It’s been so fun to learn about you and learn about the beginnings of Girl and Her Moon where it all started. So I appreciate you for letting me do this.

Jordane Maree: I appreciate you. This has been fun. This was a very cool idea of yours. So thank you.

Noush: Anytime. Cool. Thank you.

Jordane Maree: All right. Thank you.

About Girl and Her Moon, the Podcast

Join us as we:

⊹ Explore our hearts in one-on-one conversations.

⊹ Dive into our oneness with the cosmos through astrology and numerology.

⊹ Explore soul-based systems through which we can understand the world.

From topics like self-worth, creativity, expression, intuition, Soul, coming home to self. To astrology, numerology, tarot, channelling, business, energy, healing, akashic records and more. And topics that are undefinable and ungraspable. Exploring what it means to be alive, to be rooted in both our divinity and humanness, and returning to the space where they are one.

Hosted by Girl and Her Moon’s founder, Jordane Maree, this Podcast is a space to connect, share our experience, and become one for a moment.

There are no expectations here. Only spaciousness and invitations for truth.

At the core of this adventure:

Connection. Vulnerability. Authenticity. Truth. Love. Expansion. Realness.

Where we share from truth, not fear.

Where we witness the innate power in our vulnerability.

Where we take off the masks of expectation, of needing-to-know-it-all, of performance, of abandoning-the-self to fit in.

Where we explore self, and all that we meet as we stumble our way through this beautiful human experience.

Where we value all cycles of being alive. The moments of cracking open, the moments of beautiful bloom, the moments of confusion and doubt, the moments of excitement and clarity.

Where we value the breaking open and the becoming.

All of it is welcome here.

All my love,

Jordane

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